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This weeks topic: OOC fanfiction writing

Sun Sep 19, 2004, 8:41 AM
I'm sure I'm not, but has anyone gone to look at a fanfiction, be it on fanfiction.net, or some other website... and found everything extremely OOC amonst the characters? Especially with... you guessed it pairing fics.

Whether its X-men's Jean grey acting like a cold hearted individual who wants to leech on poor Rouge, or Sonic the hedgehog's Amy Rose turning into the poor, abused, sympathetic character, there's probably NO comic, game, or work that doesn't meet such an annoying trend of writing.

fanfictions are fun, fanfictions are cool. They can be captivating works of art without illustrations, the words and descriptions are the brush, and the plot and characterizations. They allow one to use their artistic lisences to tell a story... a great concept, that I think people in general are abusing.

I do not "hate" the people who do this, I do not have a problem with anyone's character content, today, I'm merely going to focus on the fics, on my favorite comic/cartoon/blah blah blah...Sonic.

*sidenote*

Now, to be frank, I don't know why I put up with Sonic games, Final Fantasy gives a lot more worth to the cash you chuck out for these games. Sonic Heroes in my mind was a reguritated peice with same levels, gameplay, stale plot and characters who don't do the slightest developing, and anyone wonder why Knux left the island to adventure?


Okay, so now we have clear that even though I'm a Sonic fan, I have to admit his games aren't the best, and I'm not even a fan of him because of his games.

*end sidenote*


When I go into the fanfiction.net category for Sonic, I usually end up slapping my forehead thinking "why did I waste my time?" Hope I suppose. So to continue, lets make clear what the heck I find wrong with Sonic fanfictions.

The first thing is, is that they can't decide what continuity they want to write a fic on. They slap in characters without research, or any second thoughts, confusing the reader. If you are writing these fics for yourself, don't make them public folks, if you are giving them to the public for us to read, do us a favor and at least help us understand what the heck you are talking about. Are you reffering to the comics? show? STI games? Sonic Team games? Sonic X? Its important to make a good note in specifying this so whe know how the character is supposed to behave, as the characters can and have behaved differently in different continuities.

Amy Rose oriented, or Sonic/Amy fanfictions

Now normally, these fics take the cake for OOCness.

First of all, how come Amy wants to go on an adventure. Her reasons for going usually consist of trying to get Sonic to marry her, in the end she is dragged into an adventure. Amy KNOWS this is how it goes, she's approved of this admitting it in adventure. She knows by following Sonic around adventures are bound to happen. She doesn't have enough self worth to look to herself for a good time, Sonic must define it for her, so a solo story would be hard to come by unless Amy finding her own self worth was developed prior. The problem is just that: it isn't. So its OOC, to conviently change characterizations with NO developments.

An implied excuse within the writing is that Amy says she'll get Sonic to respect her. Yes, but Sonic adventure was years ago, we have a couple more games out to expand on what Amy means. She is more aggressive in her approach to getting Sonic. In SA, her little fantasy of Sonic turned into a full blown "marry me" craze that made the Sonic chasing more renown. Has she done much in Sonic's presence in terms of fighting and aiding, no. She's become more bold and aggressive towards everyone in regards to her "romance" with Sonic so that they respect it. That's that. The end. At least IMO.

So now that people know why these abrupt "kick butt to impress the readers/Sonic OOC fics" annoy me a bit, lets go on to SonAmy romance.In the cast, it usually consists of Sonic, Tails, Rouge, Amy, Mina, Shadow and princess Sally.

Tails: The "boy's" best friend.

In SonAmy fics, Tails tends to be the boy who says "Stop being macho Sonic! You love Amy don't you?" He's the close friend who suspects Sonic loves her, support her with him, and wants to pry it out of Sonic.

Again, this is OOC, please play your games.


:bulletred: He approves of Sonic/Amy, he's happy with Amy's approach and wants her with Sonic.

Why oh why then did he try to tell Amy he doesn't want to prepare for a future with her through Emerl in battle? Why oh why was he annoyed in SA2 when she went to go the base for her "hero Sonic!"

:bulletred: he "knows" Sonic's macho and really loves Amy. In Battle when Sonic runs off, he's not defending Amy. He's not saying "hey Sonic stop acting so evasive and admit you want her" no he's literally trying to squash Amy's fantasy of her and Sonic, and gets slapped with intimidation.

:bulletred: in the comics, Tails doesn't even KNOW much about Amy's crush towards Sonic. her growth spurt didn't make immediate rushes to Sonic, she is oriented on getting him to respect her as a freedom fighter, but then again she wants that from everyone, and in the end Sonic/Amy is portrayed as a brother/sister bond, thats what Gabrie said in a Sonic Gram.

Oh I can see it now "screw Sally and Mina Sonic, you are better with an incest relationship with your sister equivalent!"

ha ha...no.

NEXT!

Rouge: The girl's best friend.

In the fics that try handling the games, angsty Amy needs a companion. Cheerleader Rouge. Cheerleader Rouge encourages angsty Amy that indeed Sonic loves her and that he's just being stubborn. Anyone who played Heroes would know, that is NOT the case with Rouge. To each their own opinion, but Rouge and Amy first off are not "pals" they were at each other's throats in Battle, and Rouge thinks Amy is too pushy, and drives Sonic away. Does that sound like cheerleading? No. They aren't friends and Rouge does not support Amy.

Knuckles: Usually the boyfriend of Rouge. Lets just toss out the fact they are rivals who only come together because of the emerald, no, they are passionate lovers. When an adventure doesn't involve the emerald, Rouge does not seek Knux's company. I don't mind Knux/Rouge, but its not a passionate hot and heavy romance. Many SonAmy fics potray it as such to make Sonic envious, so that he'd want to be with Amy. That, and/or, Knuckles frowns upon how he treats Amy, when he really doesn't seem to care.

Mina Mongoose: Mina in fics that want a more Archie twist, ends up being Amy's friend and comfort zone. Even when she has Techno and Ebony. Amy and Mina haven't even really had an official get together/meeting in the comic. Them being best friends for unexplained reason is fairly odd. Her encouraging Amy for Sonic when she's already considered Sonic wanted Sally in 123 is also a bit odd to me as well. Why would she encourage the kid sister figure when she is under the assumption Sonic is happier with princess Sally?

Shadow: Mina's convnient love interest whom she's never even met before. How does Shadow open up to Mina? Why? None of these questions are answered, she's just plopped with him and we're expected to understand.

We don't.


Sally: The antagonist. She rains on Amy's parade, is a bully, is rude, steals poor Sonic, and hates Amy because of the competition.


....First one must ask... WHAT competition?!

In Archie comics, Sally has never voiced any idea that Sonic has any interest in Amy. If he holds no interest, why would she feel threatened? Sonic's not going to make Sally worry because Sonic loves her like a sister, and thus isn't going to romance her. Also, the "OMG Sally stole Sonic from Amy!" No one can steal something from you that you didn't have to begin with.


Sonic: Amy's love interest.

Poor poor Sonic. He is potrayed as "secretly wanting to commit to Amy but never admitting it." See, in the comic he loves Amy like a sister, so no, he doesn't want THAT sort of commitment. In the games and Sonic X, Sonic would never give up his adventures to have a more settled lifestyle that Amy Rose wants. He'd never commit to he needs as such. They'd never be beyond friends because Naka's already gone into account on how Amy will continue to persue Sonic with a desire to have a commitment with him he doesn't want. So pairing Sonic/Amy goes against the "Amy is always supposed to chase" while Sonic is "never to settle and have kids."



Amy: The angstified girlie who does no wrong. In the fics, sometimes she stops and thinks about "gee maybe chasing Sonic is wrong, he hates me, I'm not chasing anymore because its for the best."

Eh...no. People she's not Mina the Mongoose. This girl chases to win, whether Sonic says "no" or not. Naka in his interveiw made it specifically clear, Amy is meant to "chase" Sonic. Always. Key word. Remember it. So its out of character for her to suddenly want to stop because she's considering his feelings out of love. Mainly because Amy's posessive and is bent on having him, always chasing and thus she'll always fail.

When she chases, she sometimes gets Sonic to stop and they date, he admits his love for her....and why? Why does Sonic for no developed reason get so charmed by Amy Rose he'd stop his occassional running from her, and agree to dating when he just said no in SAdv 3. Again the chain of events are OOC. If you want a fiction depicting the relations between the characters Sonic and Amy, fine but please do it in character. to me its an eyesore when I see people write them OOC because of how they say Japanese obsessed fans who only want to look at Amy being with Sonic because SoJ made the game she starred in, Sonic CD. Neglecting the fact SoJ developers (Sonic Team) collaborated with SoA to make the storylines we know of today as Archie and SatAM. Whatever Amy...whatever...

The fics don't like to touch on the flaws of the relations. Amy is too persistant. Chases, and doesn't respect Sonic not wanting to commit to much outside adventure. Sonic doesn't care about Amy's desires for a loving commitment In the end it creates an infinite game of cat and mouse in which many don't seemingly understand.

Think I'm done? I'm really not.

Sonic/Sally: Most mature/wonderful couple evar!!1123634"

In fanfiction that I've read, they have a mature relationship. One of affections, strong bonds, and look like they could soon be married. I watch SatAM and read Archie comics and shake my head. Another attempt at making a flawless romance. Unangsitfied, but it stripped of its flaws as well.

In SatAM, where is the childish banter that reflects the bits and peices of immaturity in Sonic and Sally's character? To be honest I wasn't detracted by them having immaturity through their banter in the slightest. It showed that despite what all the freedom fighters went through they could still hold on to be somewhat jovial. And yet, it was still immature, but its nothing many fics want to touch on. Many fics also don't touch on how Sally has used guys in both the comic and cartoon to get Sonic's attention so that he can conform to what she desires.

Finally, their lifestyles create flaws the "perfect pairing" writers don't wish to touch on. Where is Sonic and Sally's dispute over how to run their lives? Sally wants Sonic in the palace to be at her side, Sonic wants to rule. Where is this incorporated in new Archie fics? Where are basic flaws in these fics at all?

I also don't like how SOME of them have potrayed Mina. A SonAmy pincess Sally equivalent. an evil instigator who seeks to make them unhappy by runing their relationship as boyfriend and girlfriend. First off... what relationship? They were never together when Mina was around. And Mina reacted by nearly dying so Sal could be with Sonic when she felt Sonic loved her. Does that sound like an evil instigator who wants to tear apart a pairing? Uhm...no.

Lastly:

Tails/Cream.

Already made a mini rant about Knux/Rouge, so I won't bother to repeat myself on that. But these two aren't even reaching puberty and are already passionately attracted to one another? Puppy love isn't "OMG MARRY ME WE'R SOUL MATS YAY!" If people want to develop Cream and Tails, please develop common interest first and leave it G-rated. They're only 8 and 6...and some fanfiction writers really haven't caught on to that if you know what I mean.

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:icontoni-the-mink:
:applaud: Well put! I enjoy reading your editorials,r eally I do. You make such good points and evidence to back up your voice. I may not agree with all you say, but I really do respect what you write. ^^

:glomp: XD SEriously, though, I can relate... Dragonball Z/GT fanfics have the same problem... SEVERE OOC-ness just so rabid fans can hook Trunks with Pan, and Goten with Bra (both couples have a MAJOR age gap, BTW... =P Perhaps I should make my own editorial so I can spew my opinion on this icky icky topic. ^^

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:iconlegion89:
How long can you rant? :P

It's a great analysis, but I have one question. In the first part where you talk about Mina as being the friend in Son/Amy fics, you also mention Techno and Ebony. Do you mean Techno and Ebony from the Fleetway comics (the green canary and the black cat respectively)? Or are there characters in Archie now called Techno and Ebony? I've seen stuff like this loads of times before, and I just want to clarify, if that's OK.

And don't get me started on hentai fanfics. Urgh. I'm actually thinking of taking my fanfic off FF.net after finding out that there are Rugrats hentai fanfics on there.
:iconcatholicgamer:
I normally just stay away from fanfics with any hint of romance for Sonic. Unless someone like recommends it or something, but for the most part I pass.

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:iconsakaki22:
I think the point of fanfiction is to see the characters in a different light. I wouldn't consider fanfiction characters to be OOC, even though the best fictions have them IC.
:iconexperimentalsubject6:
Amy is difficult to write in-character. Primarily because, when truely in-character, Amy annoys/scares the crap out of people, and nobody likes to write an annoying character (well, unless they're making somebody they don't like look bad, but that's another issue), while most people don't like to write a character that scares them either. That's why everyone writes her OOC. They just can't stand to write her normally.
Above all, though, I must single out those who write Amy angst. Amy does not angst. Amy is relentlessly happy, to the point where there are times I question her sanity.
I don't think Amy will ever give up, but I do believe it possible she'd come to the realization that how she is going about things is not going to work, and she needs to change tactics. Whether the new approach works is entirely speculation.

I understand Mina being Amy's friend better then Rouge. (Do not start with me about Rouge cheerleading...I want to strangle those authors, I do. Rouge is just not the cheerleading type, not for anybody.) In fact, considering personalities involved, that makes fairly good sense. Yes, they've never canonically met, but hey, fanfiction is about stuff that didn't happen in canon but could/might have.
On the other hand, Mina seems to have accepted that Sonic and Sally are "meant to be" or whatever it is, and would probably try to gently steer Amy in another direction. Amy, having as much capacity for subtlety as a wounded elephant, would probably not be affected.

Sonic and Sally...well, Archie seems bound and determined to stick them together. I dunno myself. It looks possible, even likely, but there are some problems (like, say, Sonic would never make it in court life). On the other hand, there is some fairly good evidence that Sally doesn't want to be Queen, and may even be actively attempting to disqualify herself for the job. (Being nominal commander of the Freedom Fighters, going out, getting dirty, and getting shot at isn't exactly the best training for being Queen, and Sally seems to have made an effort to avoid things that would be good training. So, like I said, she may be making a concious effort to force her parents into making Elias the heir...and the reasons why he isn't currently heir apparent are flimsy, IMO.)
That still leaves the slight problem that Sally can't keep up with Sonic. I don't mean that literally; nobody keeps up with Sonic literally unless he wants them to. I mean it more in terms of his adventuring lifestyle. Sally's good, yes, but not that good. And I'll cut this bit off now before it segues into my pro-SonRouge argument.

Tails and Cream are cute. As close friends. I make a point to flame people who portray them as more, and on ff.net get their fics removed, since NC-17 is a Terms Of Service violation there. (So if you see it and it's bugging you, report it! It'll go away!)

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I don't mind Mina being the best friend of Amy, but the fic could at least develop it. The way I see it, a fic tells a non cannon story. So basically it'll tell things not in the initial storyline anyway, even if following characterizations to a tee. However, All fics if wanting to stick to continuity can at the very "least" develop Amy meeting Mina so that we aren't expected to think they met in the comics and became friends, which they didn't, all the more confusing for me as a reader to see Amy and Mina look like they've always been best friends, with Mina giving pep talk when they've never even met.

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:iconmikochan:
No I mean in Archie Sonic/Amy fics where Mina is the best friend. All this, while Techno and Ebony were revealed as friends to Amy Rose in Sonic's welcome home ceremony in 134. Therefore if anyone, these two would be better candidates for giving Amy that "girlfriend pep talk" then someone she's never met, provided the writer doesn't want to develop a "best friends" relationship, because there's already one in existance in the continuity they're reffering to.

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:iconsakaki22:
Isn't it possible that they met sometime not during a moment of interest? I doubt every detail of their lives is inked and sold.
:iconmikochan:
its possible, but we the fans don't know that, all the more confusing for us.

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