Save it, I don't care, I don't like the comic interpretation of Sally. You can go to a board and talk about loving Sally Acorn or Amy Rose, but that's it. I'm so sick and tired of people trying to convert me into debating on behalf of their girl. Its not happenin'. For now, Mina's the one I choose to support, not Sally, not Amy.
And due to sooo many people wanting to know WHY I don't think Sally or Amy are hot for Sonic I'll just say my peice here. Please ignore this journal if you can't bear reading someone else's opinion:
Sally: I don't support her with Sonic, in SatAM nor Archie. Some people need to get over it. I'm not going to change my opinion anytime soon, if ever, so find someone else to rant for your "precious" princess.
I don't like Sonic/Sally in SatAM because Sally was consumed on trying to make him someone she could love, or acting in a way that didn't consider his feelings (trying to make Sonic be more of a gentlemen by using Griff? Not caring about how upset he'd feel?, If Sally truly loved Sonic, why have the urge to morph him into something else if she appreciated who he was already? Why make him jealous if she's supposed to be the loving girl who cares about how he feels? Then there's Sonic who basically just ran off on missions, not caring about the danger as much as he should if at all, and thus not caring about how Sally could feel based on his actions. Lets also touch on Antoine, whom competed with Sonic for Sally. When Sally points out she isn't comitted to Sonic sometime in the continuity of the show, he runs off sulking and upset. Not considering Sally's happiness when the frustration over his rivalry with Ant blows up in her face, no happiness considered by respecting Sally's desicion, just an immature reaction that showed his interest was in having the "prized" princess of the show, not to make a serious commitment in making her happy, and vice versa. They need not have a committed relationship to one another, so they need not be together. They are obviously not but so loving and committed to each other's needs. Can they cheer each other up and stuff? Certainly, but the way the relationship was handled makes me feel they weren't committed to one another's needs. Its one thing to do something, its another to be comitted to it. The way it was handled made me feel the good times they shared were merely something to advance their own interests in having one another. I like SatAM Sally, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think Sonic's right for her.
In Archie, its the same problem in regards to the relationship. Sonic wants to run off on adventure, Sally wants to rule, neither of them comitted to each other's needs for comprimise to happen. Not only that but in my mind, Sally is evidently posessive of Sonic, and he is posessive of her. When Sally thought she lost Sonic to Mina, she was a cold, biting, resentful brat. She didn't at all consider how he felt, and didn't consider his happiness. Instead Sally ignored, evaded, and tried cutting Sonic out of a mission. That showes her desire to have Sonic, and not see him happy. Why? Because she's warm to Sonic when she can have him, but once she can't most desire to persue him with an attractive attitude and mindset is gone. for the longest time, Sally had always thought she could have Sonic, as in: SHE'D be the girl he'd end up with if anyone. So, until the love triangle she would always be open to him. Once her ideology of having him is taken, all is out the window and she is a cold, biting brat.
Need more?
Go look at 134 and 138. Princess Pants is trying to force Sonic into staying in the palace and not fight, so she can have someone to rule at her side and to protect their future as a couple. In the end she abuses him when he refuses, to resume his duty for the better of the people. Her desire to ensure she has Sonic cuts away at thinking about what could make him happy. An example of trying to make sure she can "have" Sonic, without considering what makes him happy/what he wants. Sure she can be kind to Sonic, but you have to know the motive behind it. The idea she can do this to get Sonic, not "merely to make him happy." That's posession to me, not love. As the focus is "having" the charachter, not being committed to their happiness and at the very least consdiering comprimise.
So now I probably have a dozen Amy fans giggling in their seats. Well you can stop too because I'm not a Sonamy fan either.
Amy runs in pursuit of Sonic because he's her hero, and such. She wants to force him into marrying her and comitting. He has made it clear his answer is no, but she continues.
"but deep down he cares right?"
Your opinion, but even if that is true, he hasn't admitted such to Amy. So if Amy were the loving girl who cared for Sonic's happiness over her own selfish desires to have him, wouldn't she abide by what she at the very least "thinks" he wants? What she "thinks" would make her happy based on what he's verbally expressed to her? Which would mean "leave him alone" since that is what he has indicated to be what he wants, whether or not a relationship to Amy is actually something he wants. As "no marriage" is all she's been told, so I'd expect her to at least consider his words and use what she "thinks" she knows to make him happy.
Though, being she doesn't, does that not scream posession as well? The desire to do things only to "get" Sonic while not caring about how he's actually feeling? Sonic doesn't appear happy when Amy's chasing him, fighting him, etc in order to be forced into a committed relationship. But she persues because she is determined to make Sonic "her's" as she says in Heroes. To me its the same posession I see in Sally. I repeat: In Sonic Team, Amy only cares about making Sonic her's, not what is in his best interest. Sonic doesn't care about Amy Rose romantically either. Since when is he comitted to her wants? He hasn't even considered what would make her happy : Marriage and kids. So I don't find what is between them as love either.
A manuel can say what it likes, but some official sites say he doesn't want her, others say he might have secret feelings. Being that the interpretations of Sonic's feelings are so widespread, I go by what I see, and I don't see much "love" between Sonic and Amy Rose.
Then we have Sonic X, which SonAmy fans constantly talk about to reiterate the "love" between Sonic and Amy.
Yuji Naka: There will be hardly be any chance, I bet. Amy will continue to pursue Sonic all the time, but Sonic will not ever get married. I think so, because I cannot picture the image of Sonic that he is married and has his children! Also, I feel it is a more Amy's style to always chase Sonic.
Sonic says he "loves" Amy, but lets get serious, IMO he doesn't. He isn't that seriously comitted to Amy's feelings to ever take it that deep in any noted continuity Naka has regarded. Amy will always want this commitment with Sonic, but no matter what he actually tells this twelve year old, in reality his heart isn't comitted to her and her wants for a married life and a family, He isn't that committed to Amy's feelings to comprimise it, so I doubt it'd get far.
With Mina its something fairly different. She took the bullet for Sally in issue 123. A posessive girl could easily take the bullet for Sonic, because he has to be alive in order to feel the joy of having him. Some may be so extreme as to let themselves die before not
having him. With Mina its somewhat different. Our Mongoose took the bullet for SALLY, not Sonic, so there's not real arguement for posession here. When she saw Sonic and Sally kissing, she felt Sonic would never care about her like he does Sally. In short, she doesn't feel confident in having Sonic. She still took the bullet for Sally. Instead of letting her head get blown to peices, Mina risked her life to save the only obstacle in her way. Why? because Mina is more oriented in seeing Sonic happy. She doesn't HAVE to have Sonic, because that's not her motivation for treating him how she does. Her motivation is to see him happy, having him is not an issue because she loves his charachter that much.
As for Sonic, I think he holds interest in Mina as well. In Sonic #111, when Tails mentioned "girlfriend" not only did Sally pop up in his mind, but so did Mina the Mongoose, so we know at the very least Sonic has a romantic interest in Mina. There is then the question is he comitted to Mina's needs as an individual. The answer is yes. When Mina was hurt when her mother turned into a bot, Sonic was there, when they met up again in the 90s Sonic helped her cope yet again. In 123, he was there for Mina. When Mina's wanted help on training her speed, or had talent, he thought of her best interest and gave out his hand, when Mina's needs have come into question, Sonic has taken the time to be there, without asking for ANYTHING in return. Unlike Sally, whom he expects to be wooed, Sonic hasn't expected anything of the sort from Mina, rather the intent has been to make her happy. Even if Sonic himself was a little screwed up in the romance department, I'd still pick Mina, because she has realized he isn't ready to "marry" and be with her, and has loved his character anyway. Remember, being with Mina isn't a "need" to her, there's thus no need for Sonic to tend to it. Its a "want" but its not emphasized as a necessity.
And now to rebut some stuff I see from messageboards:
OMG how could you like Mina, the comics have intended Sonic and Sally to be together from the get-go!
First of all, even if this was true, you'd have to understand things change. Just as a person may have plans to become a doctor, they can easily end up deciding to change their profession to be something like a lawyer. Intentions are inconstant.
For those who need further convincing to ditch this pathetic ideology....
: Sonic could just as easily remain friends with Sally while dating someone else. She might not
: like it, some readers won't like it, but it would be true to his character if such a scenario did
: come about.
A quote from Ken (a couple years old) Sonic was not built on the idea that him and Sally were this meant to be couple, that Mina crashed in. As the matter of fact, Sally was meant to be that girl Sonic has the "fun" with some of the time, but in the end, it was more true to the character Archie set for him that he go for someone else, Sonic and Sally weren't built on the idea they were "meant to be" Mina didn't rain on anyone's parade, as there was never was one. Thus I'm sick of the "OMG SAL CAME FIRST!" Crap, because in the end...so what? What came first was Sonic's take on girl's and that initial take was to date another girl besides Sally, despite what sparks hit the wood. Throughout early freedom fighting he was out and about with Tatiana, a former love interest to Antoine. Throughout his life, despite the sparks between him and Sally, its more i his character to end up dating someone else while being Sally's friend (or trying).
But Amy's the official love interest
First of all, I'm not those kinds of people who think Sonic Team games are the only official verse. Even if we were to apply the "anything Sonic Team is cannon" you'd have to rule in the fact Sonic Team helped make the storylines and profiles for the characters that would be pit in the Archie/SatAM storyline, and there its currently Sally and Mina that are the gals, Amy's not even much competition. Anyway, for those of you who must be so insistant on the games, I'll quote this again:
Yuji Naka: There will be hardly be any chance, I bet. Amy will continue to pursue Sonic all the time, but Sonic will not ever get married. I think so, because I cannot picture the image of Sonic that he is married and has his children! Also, I feel it is a more Amy's style to always chase Sonic.
Sonic HAS no interest in being with Amy Rose. She is not the "official love interest" because Sonic's not even INTERESTED in her to begin with. Sonic is AMY's love interest, not the other way around. Therefore this complaint is faulty.
Sonic and Sally have known each other since childhood
And I've known my sisters since birth, that doesn't mean I'm going to be having some lesbian incest relationship with them okay? I really don't care if they knew each other since childhood. Why should I care? Because they knew each other for awhile? Why should I care about that? To dumb it down: How does that ENSURE a better relationship? Yes to be frank I don't know either. Knuckles had a crush on Sally since childhood, and he's with Julie-su, does that tell you anything? Does it also ring any bells that Tatiana and Sonic had something and then that went down the drain as well? Childhood bonds don't ensure a true love. So I'm sick of people using the childhood excuse. Its rather annoying.
But Sonic's never been affectionate to Mina
That's untrue, he's huged, flirted, given her romantic gestures (ex: cupping up her chin) Does that matter? Not really, and I'll explain why later.
But he's never kissed her
No, but he had some pleasure when she kissed him. Just because he was surprised doesn't mean he wasn't pleased. Pleasure was also something Mina noted was a reaction to her kissing him. She was dissapointed however, because there was so much more suprise in reaction to her kiss. SonSal fans would be shooting themselves in the foot if they Sonic's never behaved "more suprised than pleased" when affections come into play. As Sonic was petrified when Sally made a quick move to try and kiss him. Still, pretend they NEVER had any affections at all. It wouldn't matter to me one bit. A man could easily have a girlfriend, and kiss, hug, and even have sexual relations to her best friend or the city whore. Affections cannot at all prove love. So the whole "affections" arguement means nothing to me as well.
Can't people accept I like Mina more than Sally or Amy for Sonic? Its not like I'm ripping out my hair when someone disagrees with my preference, no matter how much I may disagree.
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Here's one source, the initial source is down, so I hope this helps a bit.
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So yeah, you can discredit my opinion freely, I have a knack for thinking up the wierdest ideas, like Sally/Elias or Geoff/Sally.
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